One of the greatest tragedies for the past 2000 years is that we’ve tried to build Jesus’ church for him instead of recognizing the way he is shaping his bride in the world. When we use institutional priorities to maintain or sustain the church we end up disfiguring her and using the term “church” to describe something that is not the church.
During my recent trip to the UK, I was asked by Tim Nash and Dave Ward to join them on their Nomad Podcast. They wanted to discuss my latest book, Finding Church, and came at it with lots of interesting questions people ask who haven’t yet figured out that the church Jesus is building and the one humanity don’t always speak to the same reality. They had some great questions and the engagement was generous and passionate as we discussed the difference between the church Jesus is building and the one humanity has been trying to build for him. I can’t imagine a better summary of how I hope Finding Church encourages and equips other followers of Christ.
The podcast is titled, What Sort of Church Is Jesus Building? You can click on the link at left to stream it or use this one to download. It is an hour and 15 minutes long, and the interview begins at the 6:10 mark.